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Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:35 am
by Mr. B.
It is interesting to see the Russian green compared to the Chinese green. Unfortunately, it is like comparing apples and oranges. The Russian grip is molded of industrial / military grade material to meet exacting standards. The Chinese ones are molded from the cheapest plastic to virtually no standards for the civilian market. Even if they would use the same dye / coloring they would still look different. Mike
PS: Neither one is made of Bakelite.

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:20 am
by Mr. B.
These "Green" bayonets and scabbards are unique to the Russian Border Guards. They are an integral part of their uniform and worn almost daily on duty. Lots of wear and tear. The metal Type I scabbards in particular are easily damaged and it appears they are often reworked, repaired, replaced, and reissued / re-numbered.
I did notice something unusual about all the "green" bayonets pictured above and other places. Under close examination the catch buttons are different from the ones found on most 6X4 type II bayonets. They seem to have sharp outer edges and the surface is smooth with small irregular indentions instead of checkering. The two most commonly found release buttons, (below), have a checkered surface, with and without beveled edges. Difficult to tell from the pictures, but most have the checkering points out. Some may have the checkering points in. Very similar to the checkered plastic buttons on the 6X3 type I bayonets.
Mike
Russian AKM 6X4 Type II release buttons 1 (2).jpg

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:13 pm
by Dragur2791
For the record im sharing pics of another “border guard” bayonet.
This one is numbered 7730 and is of course much like the other ones i had through my hands.

- reused/reworked/repainted scabbard.
- old numbering is barely visible
- Blade shows sign of usage.
- Has some interesting stampings on the pommel.

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:15 pm
by Dragur2791
Grip

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:16 pm
by Dragur2791
Stampings/inspection marks

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:17 pm
by Dragur2791
Blade

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:19 pm
by Dragur2791
Izhvesk production

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:36 am
by Mr. B.
Congratulations! Very nice addition to your collection. As usual, I’m envious. Mike

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 3:59 pm
by norrick
Nice pics! I could see myself owning one of these. Where do you even begin looking for one tho :o

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 8:26 pm
by Dragur2791
They sometimes pop up for sale. Just keep an eye out on the popular pages/forums. I actually sold one myself recently.

Re: border guard bayonet

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:16 am
by norrick
I'll keep an eye out. I haven't been collecting much recent years but pls let me know if you ever find more of em :-)