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New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:08 am
by Brian
Apparently this is the new Polish issue bayonet for the Beryl rifle?
Seen for sale here: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =542333427
Looks interesting. I expect the pricing will come down as more find their way into the wild. I suspect these examples are coming straight from the factory, not from issue?

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:37 pm
by Mr. B.
Agree, something new and different. Some observations after studying the pictures on GB. 1. The upper part of the blade tang does not extend through the cross guard as on the previous 6H4 version. This is what creates the flat, or pedestal behind the muzzle ring on the older ones. It's function was to engage a slot on the muzzle attachment and eliminate rotation of the bayonet on the barrel axis. No longer needed? 2. The top front of the black molded grip is a completely different shape in this area behind the muzzle ring as well. The grip seems to be a much more detailed plastic molding without any trimming or grinding. 3. Also noticed there are no plugs or indentions on the sides of the grip. These plugs covered the machine screw or pin that secured the grip to the blade tang. No longer needed? Different method used? Just adhesive or molded in place? Mike
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Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:45 pm
by Mr. B.
I also noticed that the rubber scabbard insulator appeared to have a slightly different shape!? Maybe it's just the picture, but the sides of the hanger loop pocket appear to be pinched in. Mike

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:15 pm
by Brian
I guess we are all going to be working hard to find this one.
I have a good source in Poland, but he hasn't got any info on it yet. We will see. They HAVE to come down from $300 hopefully.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:13 pm
by Trombi
I saw on polish auction. Price was mad at the end. Looks like new colour came on market. Must be dark series production, not many on market now but soon will come more I believe.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:34 pm
by Brian
Seller says that the military does not have stock of them yet, and they aren't available in Poland to the civilian market, but at the same time he is saying they are military issue.
Not sure how they an be military issue, but not issued yet. I think the factory is making and selling them for collectors. Maybe they are destined for the army (I assume so) and then they will leak out like everything. But for now I would like to see a pic of someone issued with one, or a serialized one.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:35 pm
by Brian
What was the end price Sebastian, and was it Allegro?

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:03 pm
by Trombi
I do not remeber cause I did not save auction and price last time i saw was 300PLN and auction still going on. What was ended price no idea. Seller clear said that is black version assembled from spare parts. Yes it was Allegro site. You know this site?

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:17 pm
by Trombi
This one is darkest I have, I believe. Need to dig out all of them to compare. If there wass one on auction with black handle I am sure that in future will be more of them. We must wait and observe.
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Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:20 pm
by Trombi
Found more on my hardware.
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Looks like they change production method for this black version. There is no pin in the handle.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:20 pm
by Brian
My black handle one is on the way. Will post pics when it arrives.
They are coming off the production line in Poland now, before the military proofs and serializes them apparently.
This is how they come, before everything is put together. About half the price the Gunbroker ones are going for roughly.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:04 pm
by MDIvie
For everyone's information. Arms of America has these minus the hanger and wrist strap for $89.95 plus shipping. I've ordered one (had other things to order so the shipping wasn't an issue) and will post pictures when I get it.

MDI

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:52 am
by Brian
Yes, apparently they are sold out now?
Please let us know what arrives? Hope it's not one of those "show one thing in a pic, and send another" and that it is the usual red ones that arrive.
I still don't know what these are exactly. I met the Radom guys at an arms show here, and even they have no knowledge of a black bayonet in issue. Neither do any of the Poles I know. So who is getting these exactly?
Hmm....interested to hear more.
The hangers and straps can be had from Poland. If anyone bought a few of these, I would be interested in one for a friend here please. Await the pics.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:45 pm
by Mr. B.
Yes! They are as advertised from Arms of America. Mine came in the mail today. Below are pictures of the new Polish Beryl black 6X4 compared to the older style. Brand new and completely unmarked. No strap or hanger, but I have a few sets of new and used ones. For display I will add a new strap and use the new style fabric LBE hanger I picked up earlier. Mike
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Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:52 pm
by Mr. B.
Note that the blade has an anti-reflective finish as well as the painted cross guard and hilt. The grip appears to be molded directly up to the cross guard with no exposed metal tang. The scabbard and insulator are identical to the previous versions. Mike
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Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:15 am
by Brian
Did everyone only buy one??
No-one bought a few and has a spare? :-)

- B -

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:55 pm
by MDIvie
I supposedly have one on the way. I also plan on using the new style hanger.
Brian, unfortunately I only bought one.

MDI

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:17 pm
by porterkids
I went to their site but didn't see them. I guess they are sold out?

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:14 pm
by Brian
Apparently yes.
Can someone enquire if they don't maybe have some put away? I could really use one for someone.
I also suspect these are issued (if they are issued!) with the leather, and not the new hanger. Mine came from Poland not even assembled yet..all the parts still wrapped individually, and uses the leather.

Re: New Polish 6H4 Black

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:14 am
by MDIvie
I have spare Polish leather hangers, just figured this would be the most likely bayonet to see with the new style hanger. Mine is supposed to be here Thursday.

MDI