Red/orange Serbian 6X4s?

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Red/orange Serbian 6X4s?

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Anyone ever heard of a red/orange Serbian/Yugo 6X4?
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Sounds interesting. What would make it Serbian or Yugo? How would it be different from an Iraqi Tabuk AKM 6X4 Type II?
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That's the way it is being advertised - Serbian Red Finish. So, I looked for clues...it has saw teeth - eliminates Poland. Wire cutter opening - eliminates China. Oblong wrist strap opening - eliminates EG. Doesn't have the typical shiny orange handle of Russia or Bulgaria or any arsenal marks from Russia, Bulgaria or Romania. Not brown or black and no glue oozing - eliminates Egypt.
Conversely, it has the Yugo style serial number, but the pic is not the best, so it could be a Tabuk.
I contacted the seller and asked two questions...does it have a scabbard, and is the bayonet handle that color or was it painted. Seller only responded to the scabbard part and says it comes with the black plastic scabbard. He also said it was, "...for their new service M70's with the 10" red birch stocks."

What do you think? Seller has 13 total available in two ads. One ad has a black Yugo shown, but says available in red and 7-day inspection/return so I may just go for that. $60 + $13 shipping. The other ad specifies red Serbian and has "Factory Warranty" - probably a default - and $69 flat.
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I’m curious, Did you order one? I see the add on gunbroker.

Here are the only pictures of the bayonets in question, unfortunately no shots of the release button side.
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Upon closer inspection of the photographs, I believe these have been painted. I see what appears to be section that didn’t quite cover the black, and what appears to be a small amount of overspray onto the cross guard. I’ve also looked thru my collection and cannot find a single example where the handles retaining pin perfectly matches the handle as these do.
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Here is his description:
“ GENUINE ZASTAVA OF SERBIA FIXED BAYONET SAWBLADE TOP STAINLESS IMPORTED EXCEPTIONAL. WILL FIT ANY M70 AK-47 CLASSIC & MODERN LINE. ** SERBIAN RED LIMITED ISSUE **”
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Re: Red/orange Serbian 6X4s?

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It's look like red paint on it ?!
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Very questionable
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I did not order one. I have been tempted to just to see what the story is, but there's that little voice that tells me it's just spray paint or dye or something. I also don't know if the money back guarantee would apply if I do find out it's been altered to have that red look. The seller could always say he never stated the coloring was authentic, just that it is a genuine Yugo bayonet.
Do any of you have any sources in the former Yugoslavia that would know if this is authentic? Or know anyone that has purchased one?
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Still not much information available about these Serbian or Yugoslavian AKM 6X4 Type II bayonets and scabbards with "red" grips / handles. I found some pictures of the other, (right), side of the bayonets. Anybody have any knowledge, information or opinions about these bayonets? Any one own one?
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Re: Red/orange Serbian 6X4s?

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Look at the torx bit type screw that is attaching the handle on the middle bayonet in the three bayonets picture. That's weird and leads me to believe that the pommel was removed to RIT dye the handle. I am skeptical that these are "real".
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Hexagonal socket button head screw to hold the pommel, so it's seems, like Furtium said, that the pommel was taking off the handle but why?

To remplace the handle, or to remove it and to paint it in red?
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Seller told me after an enquiry that it appears to be a coating. Hence I think these are outright fakes, and likely removed to Cerakote or something. I'll be passing on them. Don't think this is official anything.
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Re: Red/orange Serbian 6X4s?

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Brian wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:43 am Seller told me after an enquiry that it appears to be a coating. Hence I think these are outright fakes, and likely removed to Cerakote or something. I'll be passing on them. Don't think this is official anything.
I agree. I also think it's just a fake, so I'll be passing on them as well.
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