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Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:33 pm
by Mr. B.
The first Polish manufactured AK47 (56-H-212), bayonets were dated 1957 and serial numbered with a "P" prefix and 3 numbers. The P was thought to indicate Prototype or Proof and only 100 were made, (highest number I have seen is P 089). Next came actual 1957 production serial numbered with an "A" prefix and 5 numbers. The A was to indicate Army or Arsenal contract and only about a 1000 were made, (highest number I've confirmed is A 01007). Instead of using the Russian designed scabbards. Poland decided to adapt the scabbard they were already making for their Wz. 55 fighting knives. They also adapted the same basic leather hanger to use with the bayonets. The scabbards have a blued finish and are unmarked with no serial numbers. It would be interesting to see how many of these 1,100+ bayonets are accounted for. Feel free to share your pictures and/or numbers. Mike
Polish AK 47 Bayonet and Scabbard 1957  A00033 (2).jpg
Polish AK 47 Bayonet and Scabbard 1957  A00033  2 (2).jpg
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Polish AK 47 Bayonet and Scabbard 1957  A00033 4 (2).jpg
Polish AK 47 Bayonet and Scabbard 1957  A00033 5 (2).jpg

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:36 pm
by Mr. B.
More detailed pictures. Mike
Polish AK 47 Bayonet and Scabbard 1957  A00033 6 (2).jpg
Polish AK 47 Bayonet and Scabbard 1957  A00033 7 (2).jpg

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:16 pm
by perkun24
Bayonets from my collection

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:03 pm
by Mr. B.
Aha .... Perkun24 ...... a Polish specialist! Excellent collection of Polish AK47 bayonets and scabbards! The "P" and "Z" prefix bayonets are obvious. Also the one numbered 11166 appears to be a black painted 1970 version. I am not sure about the ones numbered A00224, A00273. Are these both the 1957 version or low numbered 1958 versions? I would assume the A12467 is a 1958 version.
Welcome to the Forum and thanks for sharing your pictures. Mike

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:45 am
by mill_speer
perkun24 wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:16 pm Bayonets from my collection

The one with the number 11166 should be for export to Bulgaria.
There are no markings or other references to the manufacturer to be found anywhere, absolutely anonymous.
Only the spring plates in the scabbard have Polish markings.
Please show photos of the bayonet.

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:35 pm
by perkun24
Hello, I have been collecting Polish bayonets for many years but post war are not my strong side. Both A serial bayos are 1958 and painted 11166 is marked 1970

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:47 pm
by perkun24
my polish bayonets

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:34 pm
by Mr. B.
The AK bayonets may not be your strong side, but still a great representation! Overall a very impressive collection and a beautiful display! An amazing display of Polish made and used bayonets and scabbards.
Mike

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:48 pm
by Mr. B.
By the way, Mill_speer could have been correct about bayonet number 11166. It could have been an unmarked export version. I made a guess based on the black paint. Interesting to see the Polish proof marks on the scabbard tension springs.
Mike

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:50 pm
by mill_speer
Mike,
I noticed that you have a Polish with the number 66 111. Actually, the ones I know are numbered 111XX

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:58 pm
by mill_speer
@ perkun24,
I like your collection, good topic.
One question, do your German M.9805 bayonets have the WZ. 98/05 stamp on the handle and the French M.1886-15 denoted WZ.86/93?

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:05 pm
by Mr. B.
mill_speer wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:50 pm Mike,
I noticed that you have a Polish with the number 66 111. Actually, the ones I know are numbered 111XX
Gerhard,
I am not sure if it is III66 or 99III. Close examination shows that they are a " I " not " 1 ". Depends on how you look at it and how it was intended when stamped. Hubert's above is definitely 11166! Mike
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Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:19 am
by mill_speer
Numbers are actually stamped from left to right. Also from right to left in the 1970s? !
That this type of number is on a bayonet from 1970, I'm a little at a loss.
There is also Pol. AK47 without Numbers.
....... a couple of numbers from Pol. AK 47 1970 bayonets

Nummern werden eigentlich von links nach rechts gestempelt. Bei den von 1970 auch von rechts nach links ? !
Das diese Art der Nummer auf einen Bajonett von 1970 ist, da bin ich etwas ratlos.
Es gibt auch Pol.AK47 ohne Nummern.

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:25 am
by mill_speer
Here is another anonymous pole. AK47 export for Bulgaria.
The handle and scabbard are Bulgarian
Photos borrowed from Jörg H.

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:09 pm
by perkun24
mill_speer wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:58 pm @ perkun24,
I like your collection, good topic.
One question, do your German M.9805 bayonets have the WZ. 98/05 stamp on the handle and the French M.1886-15 denoted WZ.86/93?
Yes, most of them are marked Wz98/05, Wz98, even Wz88, also Lebels are marked Wz86/93, Wz07/15, Bg. fs. wz. 86-93 or bg,wz. 86-93

Re: Polish AK47 Bayonet 1957 Variations

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:22 pm
by mill_speer
Thanks Perkun24,
WZ. 88 Austria Mannlicher bayonet, I've never had that in my hand with Polish markings.
Does the M.88 have a German or Austro-Hungarian manufacturer and
did you inherit the collection?
Actually, we are here AK Bayonet Forum, I don't want to go into that, but it's still exciting to see something else.
When I think about it, you still have a lot to do with the Polish AK bayonets, there are still a lot of variants.
G.