BON - bojový nůž SA58

Czech VZ58 Bayonets
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BON - bojový nůž SA58

Post by porterkids » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:18 am

Here's a piece I got from a friend in the Czech Republic three years ago. A literal Google translation of the writing on the blade is "Do not let us perish her future".
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Post by Brian » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:45 am

New one to me. Anyone know anything about this?
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Post by ou75id32 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:57 pm

Brain you are really getting old :P hahah don't you remember from old forum :P posted some photos and text about it.... so let make another

Emergence dates at the end of 2005. by order of 121. company soldiers during exercise. Since every soldier carried combat knife UTON and vz58 bayonet they needed practical solution by combining both, so in a few days prototype was made by Mr. Šindelář . At first handle was same as on vz58 bayonet made from wood with wider guard and later after consulting with colleague shape was changed. Knife testing was made during the winter of 2006. and after several material selection changes began mass production. Handle is done with black soft polyurethane.
It was made limited edition of 100 pieces from 17029 steel just for members of 121st company with stamped Numbers 001-100 on the right middle side of blade and on the right is laser carved sign of company with their moto "nedej zahynouti nám ni budoucím". Rule was that nobody except members can get the knife so there was certificate paper with number of knife, owners name and signature of company commander (77 were granted). Color of certificate for ordinary soldiers was green while for honorably gifted was red. It was even made gift set of 5 pieces marked H001 - H005. For other units are produced without markings and material was 12020 carbon steel.
The sheath is made of Cordura nylon in few color variations (black, green and camo ) and has several options for mounting to a belt or gear. At the front of sheat is a pocket for a pocket knife, whetstone or multi-tool..
It was made around 250 pieces in 2 series.
It was used by soldiers in Kosovo , Afghanistan and Iraq. Several knives used by Slovak paratroopers.

Knife length: 280 мм
Blade length: 160 mm
Blade thickness: 4 mm
Blade Material: Steel 17029 (HRC 56-57) on the first series and carbon steel 12020 on second subsequent series.


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Re: BON - bojový nůž SA58

Post by ou75id32 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:05 pm

as you can see the one on the lower picture is original laser carved and same goes with number , the painted one is faked

some better photos of original laser carved knife
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Post by Mr. B. » Sun May 19, 2019 7:03 pm

While doing some research I found this picture of this bayonet and scabbard. Perhaps a more of an issued version.
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Post by Mr. B. » Wed May 22, 2019 4:21 pm

Here are a few more pictures I found. Several different variations with scabbards. Green, camo and black. Also note the small section of saw teeth on the top edge. Mike
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Post by Mr. B. » Wed May 22, 2019 6:13 pm

This new improved VZ58 is also known as the VZ858. Mike
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Post by ilian » Thu May 23, 2019 8:27 am

Mike, just for info, the Vz858 is the designation of a civilian version of the rifle Vz58, factory made in semi automatic named Gazella or Cz858.
So using this designation could be complicated ^^

I prefer the new Cz Bren bayonet :)

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Post by Mr. B. » Thu May 23, 2019 4:22 pm

So what is the official designation of the military version of this revised/updated VZ58 Bayonet pictured above? We here in the USA are more apt to find the commercial version VZ858. Were they ever issued by the Czech military in quantity and when?

Is this the CZ Bren Bayonet you refer to? Pictured here with the CZ95 scabbard pouch and thigh rig. These were approved by Czechoslovakia for issue in 2010. For me these are not true Kalashnikov rifles or bayonets, just like the VZ58 series. I accepted the VZ58 bayonets and added them to my collection. At least they looked like an AK. Not so sure about including the new Brens even though I like the looks and function of them. Mike
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